NewEgg’s Unempowered Customer Service Failures – Just add free shipping!

September 2nd, 2010 Comments

I’ve been a loyal NewEgg customer- until now. Their recent customer service blunders have made me reconsider for the future where I’ll take my business. Here’s a rundown of what happened, and what should have happened

The Background

Friday

Last Friday, August 27th 2010, I placed an order to NewEgg for a handful of small items;  USB cables, ink and a mouse. Total of $151.05. One of the major reasons I order from NewEgg is that their processing and shipping is really fast. When I lived in Boston, if I ordered something prior to noon and did their UPS ground shipping, I’d generally have it the next day.

9:47 AM – I get a confirmation email. I’m hoping that I’ll have it Monday, but I’m unsure of how long shipping will take since I just moved to Ohio.

9:55 AM – I get a payment rejection email. I had used my stored Visa information, but somehow I messed up my CIV/CCV number. I go in and correct the information immediately to get the order back on track. Frustration level: 0/10

10:39 AM – Another email from NewEgg. Payment failed again due to billing address. While I’d updated my shipping address, I forgot to change my billing address. My bad. I log in and correct it. Frustration level 1/10, but really its all my fault at this stage. This stuff happens when you move.

I figure since its before noon that the ‘Processing’ status will soon update to ‘Shipping’ like it normally does. At the end of the day, there is no change. Oh well, stuff happens. I’ll wait until Monday.

Monday

After breakfast, I check my NewEgg account, since I didn’t get any other emails or phone calls from them yet. The order is still in ‘Processing’ status. Frustration level: 2/10. I’m sure contacting customer service will fix this quickly.

Via their Live Chat feature, I contact their customer service. Often Live Chat isn’t perfect, but at least there is a log, and there’s no dealing with poor phone connections or non-American accents.

8/30/2010 10:51:24 AM David Fisher Hi Jay, I’m just checking on the status of my order. I recently moved, so I messed up the billing information once or twice on trying to put through the order on Friday. Its been in ‘processing’ since then. Just wanted to make sure there was nothing else
8/30/2010 10:51:24 AM David Fisher I could do.
8/30/2010 10:51:37 AM Jay Jiang I would be glad to assist you with this. One moment please…
8/30/2010 10:52:34 AM Jay Jiang Thank you for holding. After looking into your account, your order is currently in the address verification stage. Before we contact your card-issuing bank we would like to verify the address and phone numbers on the order is what your card-issuing bank h
8/30/2010 10:52:34 AM as on file for you. Could you please provide me with the following information?

(1) The full name as it appears on the card
(2) The billing address and phone number the card issuing bank has on file

8/30/2010 10:54:47 AM David Fisher Sure

I give him the needed information. Didn’t I give them this information prior? Oh well, surely he’ll take care of it.

8/30/2010 10:56:01 AM Jay Jiang Your order has been re-submitted to our address verification department, per your request. We will email you the results of our address verification attempt shortly and update our website with the results as well. We thank you in advance for your patience
8/30/2010 10:56:01 AM .
8/30/2010 10:56:14 AM David Fisher Thanks much!
8/30/2010 10:56:32 AM Jay Jiang No problem at all. Is there anything else I can help you with?
8/30/2010 10:56:44 AM David Fisher Nope, that should be it. Thanks much. Have a nice day.
8/30/2010 10:56:56 AM Jay Jiang Thank you for contacting Newegg. I hope you have an eggcellent day!

Ok, so there’s a department taking care of it. I’m confident that it will resolve soon.

1PM – No change. I’ll contact them again and see what’s up. Surely, they were able to push the button and send verification to my bank again.

8/30/2010 1:04:24 PM David Fisher Hi Olivia, I contacted earlier to check on my order, which is still in processing status. I was wondering if you had any updates or things that I needed to provide.
8/30/2010 1:04:32 PM David Fisher Hoping to see how quickly I can get the order shipped out.
8/30/2010 1:04:39 PM David Fisher Since I put it in on Friday.
8/30/2010 1:06:19 PM Olivia Wang I am sorry but you still need to wait.
8/30/2010 1:06:35 PM David Fisher No worries. We’re just waiting for payment to come through right?
8/30/2010 1:06:41 PM Olivia Wang Yes.
8/30/2010 1:06:50 PM David Fisher Ok, cool. Thanks much.
8/30/2010 1:06:56 PM Olivia Wang No problem at all. Is there anything else I can help you with?
8/30/2010 1:07:16 PM David Fisher Nope, that’s all. Do you think the processing should be done by tomorrow?
8/30/2010 1:07:29 PM Olivia Wang I think so, but we will see. ]

For a company that normally resolves stuff so quickly, this is taking quite a while. I don’t like being told to just ‘wait’ with no real feedback. Putting through a credit card verification doesn’t take that long. I’m confident that by the end of the day however it will be fixed or someone will contact me. Frustration level: 4/10. Zero updates at the end of the day.

Tuesday

I wake up early and find that there’s still no change. Surely, a representative will help. At this point I wonder if I should have ordered on Amazon instead. Their prices are comparable often, I’ve got a Prime account for free/fast shipping. The Friday when I placed the NewEgg order, I had also placed Amazon orders and they had arrived on Monday.

I think to myself, “I’m frustrated, but things happen. Surely, since the delay is on their end and I’ve spent good money in the past with NewEgg, they’ll be up for switching me to Next-Day or 2-day shipping from UPS Ground right? Seems a small price to pay for keeping a customer happy.” I know Zappos employees are able to do anything within reason to make a customer happy, and that the trend is being lauded as a great customer service method. This doesn’t seem unreasonable to ask for at least.

8/31/2010 6:40:42 AM David Fisher Hi, I placed an order on Friday. I had some trouble with my Visa card due to accidentally putting the wrong billing address once, and the wrong CCV once. I corrected the information on Friday, and I spoke with two representatives on here yesterday.

I wa

8/31/2010 6:40:42 AM David Fisher s hoping that I could find that my order would finish processing today and would ship. I normally trust NewEgg to be fast and reliable, but this order is going to be nearly a week now before I receive it. If I can’t get this done today, then I’d like to c
8/31/2010 6:40:42 AM David Fisher ancel my order so I can place it on Amazon instead (who got me a package on Monday that I had ordered at the same time on Friday.) I’ve ordered thousands of dollars of computing stuff fromNewegg and has been my worst experience so far, and I feel that I’
8/31/2010 6:40:42 AM David Fisher m being told to just ‘wait’ without information.
8/31/2010 6:41:42 AM Leah Lin I would be glad to assist you with that… Can you please give me one moment while I look into this for you?
8/31/2010 6:41:49 AM David Fisher Please and thank you.
8/31/2010 6:44:11 AM Leah Lin Thanks for holding. After looking into your account, I show that your order is currently in the address verification stage. We called your bank yesterday but your bank was closed when we called them, so we will contact your card-issuing bank to verify the
8/31/2010 6:44:11 AM address this morning.
8/31/2010 6:44:26 AM Leah Lin Once your order has been called on, you will receive an email either stating that your order has passed verification or requesting further information from you.
8/31/2010 6:44:31 AM Leah Lin I apologize for any inconvenience and thanks for your understanding and patience. v
8/31/2010 6:44:44 AM David Fisher Ok, and that should happen this morning correct? And then it should be able to ship out today?
8/31/2010 6:45:16 AM David Fisher I normally place orders with Newegg, and have things ship out the same day I place the order and without incident. Often they arrive the next day even.
8/31/2010 6:45:20 AM Leah Lin If the address info has no problem, we will release your order after we called your bank this morning.
8/31/2010 6:46:19 AM David Fisher Ok. That works for me. Again, if we can’t ship out today, then I’m going elsewhere with my order and canceling. From a customer’s perspective, this hasn’t been a good experience and I feel left out in the cold here.
8/31/2010 6:47:27 AM David Fisher Do you have the power to bump up the shipping speed without charge to make up for these delays? I’m trying to find reason to order from Newegg vs Amazon in the future here…
8/31/2010 6:47:29 AM Leah Lin I do apologize for any inconvenience.
8/31/2010 6:48:13 AM Leah Lin I apologize but we do not have the power to bump up the shipping speed since the shipping period is determined by the shipping company.
8/31/2010 6:48:39 AM David Fisher Hmm, I’m not sure I totally understand. You are the company right?
8/31/2010 6:49:01 AM David Fisher What I mean to ask is can you change it from 3-5 day shipping to next day air or something?
8/31/2010 6:49:20 AM Leah Lin Yes, but the shipping period is determined by the shipping method and the shipping company.
8/31/2010 6:49:55 AM Leah Lin I apologize for my misunderstanding.
8/31/2010 6:50:58 AM David Fisher I’ll check back around 2pm to see if the processing has gone through?
8/31/2010 6:52:04 AM Leah Lin Yes, would you like to change the shipping method to UPS Next Day for you, and the shipping fee would be changed to $41.39, is that ok?
8/31/2010 6:52:43 AM David Fisher hmm, no nevermind. I can’t afford to pay that much more for shipping.
8/31/2010 6:53:19 AM David Fisher I thank you for your help, but is there a manager that I might be able to connect with?
8/31/2010 6:54:15 AM Leah Lin I apologize but our manager is unavailable right now.
8/31/2010 6:54:37 AM David Fisher Is it possible for us to put in a note for them to contact me?
8/31/2010 6:54:42 AM David Fisher via email or phone?
8/31/2010 6:55:17 AM Leah Lin Could you please tell me what issue you still would like to resolve?
8/31/2010 6:56:52 AM David Fisher I’d like to note that I’m unhappy with my service in general right now, and that I feel left with my issues generally unresolved. I wish that someone could just call my bank and verify this right now. If I was dealing with Amazon, Zappos or Apple, this is
8/31/2010 6:56:52 AM David Fisher what would happen. I’ve trusted newegg with my business in the past, but I seriously am doubting if I will continue in the future.
8/31/2010 6:57:40 AM David Fisher Not being able to connect with a manager makes it feels even worse.
8/31/2010 6:58:20 AM Leah Lin I do apologize. I have sent a request to our address verification department to look into your order asap for you.
8/31/2010 6:58:29 AM David Fisher Thank you.
8/31/2010 7:00:26 AM David Fisher I’ll check back at 2pm. I’m still frustrated, but it seems that is all I can do.
8/31/2010 7:00:58 AM Leah Lin Is there anything else I can help you with today?
8/31/2010 7:01:55 AM Leah Lin What else I can do for you?
8/31/2010 7:03:02 AM David Fisher that is all

A few major points to highlight here.

I’m clearly frustrated, but trying to be polite and I’m not accusing this rep of poor service or making mistakes. I let them know that I am aware I could have purchased from elsewhere, and that I will cancel my order if resolution is not had today. This seems firm, but reasonable.

They claim my bank was closed when they called. Bank of America has 24/7 verification lines, and I had provided them the BofA number in my profile.

At first she doesn’t understand what I’m asking for in speeding up the shipping. Then when she realizes it, she thinks that I want to pay for faster shipping. She doesn’t even consider for a moment that I’m frustrated, and that adding next day shipping would have made me perfectly happy and this blog post would never have happened.

Finally, since I’m not getting anywhere, I ask for a manager. This is a fairly standard request in customer service, which is always to be met with, “Of course, one moment please.” Instead, she says there isn’t one available, and doesn’t even offer to note my frustrations to them, or have them contact me back later. I was hoping that a manager would want to know of their customer service issues in that department, and also might be able to resolve the issue.

Her apologies ring empty.

Frustration level: 8/10

1:06 PM – I get a email that they have successfully verified my card. w00t! My frustration level subsides a bit. Progress! 6/10

1:10PM – Payment charged. Ok, its moving. Now when will they ship? Did a manager end up upgrading my shipping? 5/10.

5:17PM – I get my shipping notifications. Three of them. All from different locations- NJ, TN, and CA. Why are some of the ink carts coming from different states? I get keeping different types of parts in different areas but I’m confused. Never before had NewEgg shipped from anywhere buy NJ. All UPS Ground. Two of them set to arrive Thursday, one on Friday. No email/phone calls from a manager. Frustration Level: 6/10. Whatever, the stuff is coming. Lesson learned.

Wednesday

I think to blog about this. Pretty frustrating experience. Could have all been fixed if they had called me on Friday and did the verification right then on the phone. Or had one of the reps upgraded my shipping. I contact NewEgg for the chat logs. I had only saved one of them.

9/1/2010 8:46:13 AM System [Leah Lin] JOINED SESSION
9/1/2010 8:46:13 AM System {PRESENTATION TEXT} [Hello my name is Leah. How may I help you today?]
9/1/2010 8:46:45 AM David Fisher Would it be possible for you to email me transcripts of my most recent 4 customer service chat sessions with Newegg?
9/1/2010 8:47:05 AM David Fisher I can provide you with my customer number
9/1/2010 8:47:14 AM David Fisher [NUMBER REDACTED]
9/1/2010 8:49:15 AM System [Leah Lin] LEFT SESSION
9/1/2010 8:49:41 AM System [Vanna Ye] ACCEPTED SESSION
9/1/2010 8:49:41 AM System [Vanna Ye] JOINED SESSION
9/1/2010 8:50:12 AM David Fisher Would it be possible for you to email me transcripts of my most recent 4 customer service chat sessions with Newegg? My customer number is 16501937
.
9/1/2010 8:50:38 AM Vanna Ye Hi David. Leah was disconnected since system error and I would be glad to assist you. Sure. I will send the chat sessions to you via email once the chat ends.
9/1/2010 8:51:06 AM David Fisher Thank you so much.
9/1/2010 8:51:23 AM Vanna Ye No problem at all. Is there anything else I can help you with?
9/1/2010 8:51:48 AM David Fisher nope, that’s all. Thank you.
9/1/2010 8:51:54 AM David Fisher I look forward to your email
9/1/2010 8:53:01 AM Vanna Ye You are welcome. Thank you for contacting Newegg. I hope you have an eggcellent day!

Did Leah freak out and drop intentionally? Seemed odd. I expect the logs soon from Vanna and trust that I’ll have them soon. I check my email and spam box an hour later- nothing. Frustration level rising…

Thursday

Well, asking a third time for the chat logs should be the charm right? Sure enough, I get another rep and I have the logs within the hour.

Overview

What has NewEgg done here? What did they do wrong? What did they do right? What should have they changed

Right:

  • Having a LiveChat line – Customers know that a phone call will involve hold times and might take up too much time. This is a good move.
  • Keeping good records

Wrong:

  • Not empowering staff
  • Not connecting a customer with a manager on request
  • Constant apology without action
  • Not following through on promises (chat logs)
  • Slow verification department with no way to speed things up

Result:

  • Probably lost a customer that spends around 2K/year with them
  • Lost referrals to friends (already my girlfriend ordered her new monitor through Amazon instead)
  • This blog post

What should have they done:

  • Phone call when first verification failed
  • Faster re-verification process
  • Don’t tell customers to ‘just wait’, without feedback
  • When all else fails, offer faster/free shipping
  • Try to make the customer happy
  • Try to show some real understanding, not robot voice
  • Connect a customer to a manager instantly upon request
  • Followthrough with promises to deliver things, like chat logs and other requests.

TL;DR – I screw up my card information. NewEgg takes forever to get it together afterward and provides poor customer service. Shop elsewhere.

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Moving to Columbus, Ohio- Apartment Needed!

June 6th, 2010 Comments

I’m moving to Columbus, Ohio in late August/early Sept with Sarah (more about this in a later blog post). I need an apartment. In the small chance that some Columbus Real Estate agent stumbles across this, please get in touch. Or is anyone know of a killer apartment available that matches this description:

  • $1450 or less per month
  • Allows two trained, adult, indoor cats without massive bullshit fees
  • Hardwood floors (as in no carpet)
  • Two+ Bedrooms, 1+ baths
  • Fantastic kitchen with gas stove
  • At least 100 amperes power available. 200 preferred.
  • Private 1+ car garage (parking deck is nice too, but I’d like somewhere to work on our bikes)
  • Should have some distinct/cool style. I’m living in a 150 year old historic house now. Cookie cutter is a no-go.
  • Close to OSU’s Neuroscience buildings. Like Short North area. Not a 20 minute drive to OSU. We’re talking more like a 10 minute bus ride.
  • Laundry in-unit

UPDATE: Sarah and I moved into a nice place in the Victorian Village. Drop me a line and hang out sometime.

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Video Games: Time not Included

June 3rd, 2010 Comments

I love games. Don’t get me wrong, I just don’t have time these days to play them as much as I’d like. I work in the gaming industry at imVOX, and prior to that at gamerDNA.

Gamers at large clamor for the newest hot game to come out as soon as possible, but I have to wonder how many of 18+ gamers just don’t have time to play them. I’ve got probably 40+ modern PS3/360 games on my shelf and two dozen more in Steam. I have a World of Warcraft account, but I haven’t logged in over a month. I wonder if my guild has kicked me out yet, but I don’t have the time to really check. A friend gave me the Warhammer MMO and I never even loaded it up. Many other games I’ve only played for a few minutes or haven’t loaded at all. All of the best intentions to play them have fallen to other daily tasks.

So what gets in the way? I’m sure the list is different for everyone who has grown past their teens. I don’t have any kids to take my time, and my wonderful girlfriend doesn’t mind me playing as long as I don’t completely neglect her. Yet, life isn’t as open and sparse as it once was. Work eats a good portion of the day. General household tasks. Working on my motorcycles. Roadtrips. Playing guitar. Reading. Dining out. Spending time with friends.

It isn’t just the growth of responsibility, but also the joy of finding more in life that interests me and takes priority. Riding a motorcycle in real life beats riding one in GTA:IV. I couldn’t have done that when I was 13. Older people (I’m only 27) don’t hate games. Your parents probably don’t hate games or find them silly, but just have a hard time really fitting them into their day in a responsible way. Massively long games like Final Fantasy XIII just don’t stand a chance on my schedule. Portal or Heavy Rain are much more fitting for my time.

Gaming is a very attention intense activity. Few great games play well as a background task. I can’t cook dinner, hold a decent conversation or read a book while playing Halo ODST. I can listen to music or NPR however.

Back in the day games could include ‘feelies‘ to enhance the gaming experience (and occasionally as copy protection). No matter the cost of a game the one feelie I wish was included with every game was a spare 20 hours to enjoy it. I’ve got 3d Dot Game Heroes and Red Dead Redemption coming in the mail today and yet I know that I won’t get as much use out of them as I’d like.

Is this just  sign of getting older? Perhaps. I know some gamers just a few years older than myself who are able to dedicate more time to the pursuit, but it becomes something you must consciously choose and you make sacrifices elsewhere.

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Honda CB650 Update

May 26th, 2010 Comments

I’m still working on getting this CB650 working. Right now I’m somewhat frustrated with it, but I think I’ll get there soon.

Greater Boston Motorsports got the electronics running and replaced the tires for me. I took apart the carbs completely and cleaned them quite well. I replaced the front brake pads naively thinking that such would stop the front brake from grabbing. Overall I got it ‘running’ and took it back to GBM. They then tuned the carbs for me, put a new exhaust on it and attempted an inspection.

Seems that I need new front fork seals ($20 for the parts, semi-difficult installation by myself), the front brake is seizing completely which likely needs a caliper rebuild and perhaps a master cylinder rebuild (about $50 in parts, if I can find them). Then the rear brake light is acting up and it needs a new relay for turn signals. I’ve heard I can jury-rig a turn signal relay from the auto store to work, which I might try tonight.

The engine still doesn’t seem to be taking off like it should and I suspect that my acceleration pump is off and/or my air filter is clogged. Also a strange suspicion that I need new clutch plates, but this could just be in my head.

I’m really hoping to have this fixed soon. The brakes are certainly the most difficult thing there due to trouble in finding parts. Completely new brake assemblies are a possibility, but generally really expensive and might not fit properly. The neighbor across the street has offered to help out since he has a GL1100 that is quite similar in many ways.

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I won a ’52 HotRod Tele from Pro Guitar Shop

April 26th, 2010 Comments

Today I got lucky (again) and won a sweet 1952 Telecaster Hotrod RI from Pro Guitar Shop in Oregon.

As you could guess, I’m pretty excited about this. I also ordered a LovePedal Kalamazoo overdrive for the pedalboard after watching a rather impressive shootout of it and the Klon Centaur.  The Kalamazoo does what I want an overdrive to, is only $200 and I could get one instantly. Sorry Bill, I love the Klon but the price and difficulty to get one (plus size) did it in for me.

I’ve been wanting a ’52 Tele since I tried one probably 10 years ago when I was on vacation once and I really dig the pickup choices on this one. The only thing that I’m going to change almost instantly is to swap out the stock bridge/saddles for a Callaham bridge which is solid call on any Tele.

Looks like its time to hang a new hook on the wall. Here’s a picture from Fender.

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